Wikispecies:Translation Administrators' Noticeboard/Archive 2020

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New translation templates

Hi. You may have noticed I recently created some new wikispecies-based translation templates. The list is: {{Int Gender}}, {{Int Similar groups}}, {{Int Synonyms or similar groups}}, {{Int Type}}, {{Int Alternative classifications}}, {{Distr}} and {{Overview of}}, and also {{Faunaeur2}} and {{commons(with translations)}}.
What is your opinion about them (unnecessary mess, too experimental to let continue, redondant to Localization project's templates, other)? Cheers. --Caftaric (talk) 05:33, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

@Caftaric: I recommend putting them into some pages (possibly in a sandbox) to show how they would work and why they would be superior. —Justin (koavf)TCM 06:06, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for your quick answer. I'll do what you recommend and will let you know when it's ready. Cheers. --Caftaric (talk) 06:28, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
@Caftaric: Thank you for helping us to internationalize. Very helpful. —Justin (koavf)TCM 10:14, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
Hi, a fist version is available at User:Caftaric/sandbox. Cheers, --Caftaric (talk) 07:30, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
@Caftaric: Sorry if I was unclear: I think it would help me understand how this is superior if you showed me Version A and Version B side-by-side. Thanks again. —Justin (koavf)TCM 07:57, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
I think You were clear enough, but now I see what I have to do. In the meantime, sorry for the delay! I let you know when it's really ready. Cheers, --Caftaric (talk) 10:11, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

───────────────────────── @Caftaric & @Justin: These templates seems to work well, however one problem I see is that they – or rather their code base – will most likely become very big, and therefore perhaps slow or server-intensive. At present most of Caftaric's templates only include a handful of languages or less, however the Wikispecies:Localization database currently display a total of 33 different languages (plus English), and more are likely to be added in the future. Eventually all of these will have to be entered into each and every one of Caftaric's templates, should we decide to keep them. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 04:05, 2 January 2020 (UTC).

To Tommy. I should be doing tests to have an idea of the speed of execution. I'll let you know when I performed some. Cheers. --Caftaric (talk) 15:17, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
(also to @Justin) A newer version of the sandbox is available with a table showing side by side the new templates and the Localization project templates. Cheers, --Caftaric (talk) 15:17, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
@Caftaric: I like these. I am in favor of replacing the current localization effort in the MediaWiki namespace with these templates. —Justin (koavf)TCM 01:13, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
Thanks to let me know. --Caftaric (talk) 06:01, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Extra translations

Moved from Wikispecies:Administrators' Noticeboard.

The content in translation unit 16 of Help:Author Names shouldn't have been translated. I have deleted the translation unit, but the translations themselves still remain. Can an admin please delete the translations listed at Special:PrefixIndex/Translations:Help:Author Names/16/? They are no longer used. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 05:03, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

@DannyS712:  Done. Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 16:40, 3 February 2020 (UTC).
Thanks. Please also delete:
Extended content
Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 19:15, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
Also, the following messages were translations of Template:TemplateBox/i18n that were already replaced with localizations:
Extended content
Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk)
 Done. Hi @DannyS712. All the above mentioned items are now deleted. Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 11:34, 27 February 2020 (UTC).

Template needs translating

Please note that Template:Tanheader needs to be re-translated. It is used on the page you are reading now, e.g. the Translation Administrators' Noticeboard. Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 13:43, 29 February 2020 (UTC),

 Done --DannyS712 (talk) 15:26, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
Face-smile.svg Thank you.
Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 21:08, 29 February 2020 (UTC).

Request for translate Arabic templates

I have experiences on translating into Arabic. So, I hope to participate on translating Arabic templates on this wiki. Omda4wady (talk) 08:34, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Hello Omda4wady. We're in need of more Arabic speaking translators and your long-time experience as a cross-wiki contributor to Wikimedia (including being a test administrator on Incubator since 2014) speaks for itself: Omda4wady (editsactions logdeletedblock logglobal)
I would be happy to grant you Translation administrator user rights here at Wikispecies, if you feel that would be helpful? Kind regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 15:35, 6 March 2020 (UTC).
@Tommy Kronkvist: Thanks — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Omda4wady (talkcontribs).
When I start translating this template I get this message " There is currently no text in this page. You can search for this page title in other pages, or search the related logs, but you do not have permission to create this page." Omda4wady (talk) 06:44, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
(The above 06:44, 10 March 2020 (UTC) edit was moved from Wikispecies:Translation administrators#Current requests by User:Tommy Kronkvist at 07:04, 10 March 2020 (UTC).
@Omda4wady: I've now created the MediaWiki page (it's not a template!) you refer to above. It's currently an empty page without content, but you should be able to edit it. –Tommy Kronkvist, 07:04, 10 March 2020 (UTC).
@Tommy Kronkvist: Thanks , I will put the translation on page's talk. Maybe another admin can copy then paste the translation on the page . I have no permission to edit till now Omda4wady (talk) 07:31, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

─────────────────────────  Done. Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 07:56, 10 March 2020 (UTC).

Arabic terms to be added

  1. MediaWiki talk:Coverage-description/ar
  2. MediaWiki talk:Day/ar
  3. MediaWiki talk:External links/ar
  4. MediaWiki talk:Links/ar
  5. MediaWiki talk:Original name/ar
  6. MediaWiki talk:Other names/ar
  7. MediaWiki talk:Publication date/ar
  8. MediaWiki talk:Publisher/ar
  9. MediaWiki talk:Synonyms/ar
  10. MediaWiki talk:Template/ar
  11. MediaWiki talk:Vernacular names/ar
  12. MediaWiki talk:Week/ar

Please add them. Omda4wady (talk) 07:43, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 01:51, 16 March 2020 (UTC).


Hello. Please mark Template:User Admin for translation. --Minorax (talk) 08:52, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

@Koavf: Kindly undo the edit at Template:User Admin and mark it for translation. Thanks. --Minorax (talk) 10:44, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
I partially restored Minorax's change to split the translation unit (for some reason the tvars where breaking things) and have updated all of the translations. --DannyS712 (talk) 12:34, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
It seems fine now. User:Minorax, look at the history and see how it was broken. —Justin (koavf)TCM 20:35, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Request to mark for translation

Hi greetings, please mark these pages for translation.

Regards.--Path slopu (talk) 07:33, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Request to mark for translation

Please mark this page for translation.

Thank you.--Path slopu (talk) 11:26, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Suspicious red links in sv-translation

Help is needed here: User_talk:Estopedist1#Undo--Estopedist1 (talk) 08:01, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

They work on the target page, isn't that what matters? So what if they don't work in the diffs? Besides they do work Translations:Wikispecies:Transwiki importers/5/sv. Also, see Wikispecies:Transwiki_importers/cs and Translations:Wikispecies:Transwiki_importers/5/cs. They use these red links that work on the target page but not on the translation page. Sould they be removed, if so why are they present on Translations:Wikispecies:Transwiki importers/5/en? --Sabelöga (talk) 08:35, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
@Sabelöga: just a sidenotice: if these strange red links clutter our Special:WantedPages, we should find another way, maybe--Estopedist1 (talk) 09:51, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
Well then, do they? --Sabelöga (talk) 09:55, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
@Sabelöga: no problem, Special:WantedPages is so "cluttered" with translation stuff, that nothing we can do before very intelligent translation tools are available (it takes about 10-15 years)--Estopedist1 (talk) 06:25, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, it works this way on other wikis too so that's just how Extension:Translate works I guess. Unfortunately. --Sabelöga (talk) 06:32, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

I made an edit that could possibly not work the way it should

I just made this edit which was supposed to make the translated pages show the translated version of the User Interface Admin template. That happend, but only if the translated template exists, like on sv and tr, but when it doesn't exist, like on de and pt-br, the template shows a red link and messes up with the rest of the text. Is there a way to get around this by making it show the original if there isn't a translated version, or is this just how it works? --Sabelöga (talk) 20:32, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Maybe trying using parser functions to detect if it exists? --DannyS712 (talk) 02:01, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
I feel like I should knw to do that. But I don't. --Sabelöga (talk) 20:03, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Suspicious edits by an anonym

I don't want to clutter "speedy deletion" section. Please check:


--Estopedist1 (talk) 10:30, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

 Done with another page deleted as well. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)TCM 13:14, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Translation deletion requests

(This requires a translation admin who is also a normal admin, so posting here rather than at the translation admin noticeboard) Translations:Help:Image Guidelines/Page display title/nqo is not a translation, and I tagged it for speedy deletion a while ago, but its still there. Can someone please delete it, and also delete Help:Image Guidelines/nqo which has no translations? Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 22:30, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Pages here as well. --Minorax (talk) 04:50, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 DoneJustin (koavf)TCM 09:28, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

───────────────────────── Translations:Wikispecies:About/4/id, to be deleted, not translation--Estopedist1 (talk) 06:33, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

 DoneJustin (koavf)TCM 06:35, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

───────────────────────── Also Translations:Wikispecies:About/8/id and Translations:Wikispecies:About/5/id --DannyS712 (talk) 13:03, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

 Done The page was deleted by user Koavf at 02:04, 22 October 2020. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 12:31, 20 November 2020 (UTC).

Request to mark for translation

Please mark this page for translation.

Wikispecies:Page types

Thx --Mohanad Kh Talk 03:30, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Why? It doesn't appear widely used and there isn't much text to translate... --DannyS712 (talk) 06:26, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
@DannyS712: I feel it might be helpful for new users, it's OK if there's no need for that, thx --Mohanad Kh Talk 23:58, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

The above discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this archive.