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Should wikis follow U. S. law or not + question about FOP etc.[edit]

In Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_Legal_department#Question_about_copyright_for_wikis and Talk:Copyright#Copyright_on_wiki_projects I asked questions about now free wikis are to make their own rules about copyright.

For example I noted that Legal/Legal_Policies#Applicable_Law say that WMF "may request" that a local wiki policy is compliant with U.S. law. That could be read like a wiki DOES NOT have to follow U. S. law UNLESS WMF REQUEST that they do.

Some wikis host photos of buildings and statues not covered by FOP. Is that for example okay?

Can wikis host files that are free in their home country but not in the U. S.?

I visit many wikis to check files but it is sometimes hard to persuade local wikis to delete the files when there is no clear answer about how much they can decide on their own.

Can anyone answer the questions or tell me how I find anyone that can? --MGA73 (talk) 13:02, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[]

MGA73, you should have asked me. Any wiki can upload as many copyvios as they want. And copyright owners can file as many DMCA takedowns as they want. Commons hosts tons of files claiming European/Canadian/etc FoP. Any of those can be DMCA'd and sometimes they are. (see this discussion from 2018)
This actually harkens back to the "we are idiots" essay I never actually wrote: nobody can ever know what is and is not protected by copyright and unless a project becomes an organized copyvio machine, all is well. In the event a project does become an organized copyvio machine, I imagine WMF will request them to comply with US law. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 06:37, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[]
Alexis Jazz If any wiki can host all the copyvios they want then we should delete or change c:Commons:Project scope/Precautionary principle and close most DR's etc. on Commons as not done. I think it would require someone from Legal Staff to confirm that. I have challenged the principle a few times because some users think we should delete all that could be a copyvio where I think the words "significant doubt" means that it is okay that there is a risk it is a copyvio as long as the risk is not significant. --MGA73 (talk) 15:54, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[]
That's an option. Legally any project can leave copyright policing entirely to DMCA claims that Legal processes. Generally projects will police themselves though to be better aligned with the goal of the project, providing freely licensed information. Also to avoid pissing off Legal. There is often a grey area in c:COM:PRP, there's no hard line and some will certainly interpret it poorly. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 08:43, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[]

Wikimedia Foundation 2021 Board of Trustees election has begun[edit]

Voting has begun in the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees elections!

Voting ends at 23:59, 31 August 2021 (UTC). Verify your eligibility and vote now:

-EpicPupper, your friendly English Wikipedia election volunteer

EpicPupper (talk) 00:45, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[]

Universal Code of Conduct News – Issue 3[edit]

Universal Code of Conduct News
Issue 3, August 2021Read the full newsletter

Welcome to the third issue of Universal Code of Conduct News! This newsletter will help Wikimedians stay involved with the development of the new code and will distribute relevant news, research, and upcoming events related to the UCoC.

If you haven’t already, please remember to subscribe here if you would like to be notified about future editions of the newsletter, and also leave your username here if you’d like to be contacted to help with translations in the future.

  • The Enforcement Draft Guidelines - The Enforcement Draft Guidelines for the Universal Code of Conduct has just been published on meta in different languages. These guidelines include some definitions of newly introduced terms and recommendations for local enforcement structures. (continue reading)
  • Enforcement Draft Guidelines Review - Before the enforcement guidelines are finalized, they must be reviewed and discussed by the community. The facilitation team has set up various discussion means throughout this review period. (continue reading)
  • Conversation Hours & Roundtables - To listen to community opinions and exchange ideas regarding enforcement draft guidelines proposed by the drafting committee, the UCoC facilitation team will be hosting weekly conversation hours. (continue reading)
  • Wikimania Wrap-up - The facilitation team hosted a Roundtable at Wikimania 2021, featuring some WMF trustees and staff. The session offered some insights on how the Enforcement Draft Guidelines came about, and what next steps are being imagined. (continue reading)
  • Translation - Because a considerable number of Wikimedians are not English speakers, and that UCoC applies to all members, projects across the wikimedia movement, it’s of a great importance to provide adequate language support throughout this process. (continue reading)
  • Diff blogs - Check out some interesting publications about the UCoC on Wikimedia Diff blog. (continue reading)
  • WMF's 2021 Board of Trustees election - Please read the Candidate Presentations and vote! (continue reading)

MNadzikiewicz (WMF) (talk) 22:21, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[]

Take a look at "Structured text" new project proposal[edit]

Take a look at "Structured text" new project proposal --QDinar (talk) 14:52, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[]

New project proposal - WikiYouth: Building Open Data Together[edit]

Hi, everyone!

I am one of the organizers of the IGF Youth Summit, a Day 0 project of the IGF 2021. As a member of the board of the Youth SIG from the Internet Society, we are trying to engage young people that are part of the internet governance ecosystem in Wikimedia projects. We delivered our first project a few months ago, but now we are trying to do something more focused and easier to learn, while trying to get more fruitful results to the Wiki community.

That is why we are proposing a Rapid Grant Contest centered in Wikidata called WikiYouth: Building Open Data Together, aiming to add relevant data to Internet Governance and youth pages. I would really appreciate it if you guys could review it and give us a few tips on how to improve the idea, and if anyone wants to help in this project, we would love an extra hand or two!

The 2022 Community Wishlist Survey will happen in January[edit]

SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 00:22, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[]

Call for Candidates for the Movement Charter Drafting Committee ending 14 September 2021[edit]

Movement Strategy announces the Call for Candidates for the Movement Charter Drafting Committee. The Call opens August 2, 2021 and closes September 14, 2021.

The Committee is expected to represent diversity in the Movement. Diversity includes gender, language, geography, and experience. This comprises participation in projects, affiliates, and the Wikimedia Foundation.

English fluency is not required to become a member. If needed, translation and interpretation support is provided. Members will receive an allowance to offset participation costs. It is US$100 every two months.

We are looking for people who have some of the following skills:

  • Know how to write collaboratively. (demonstrated experience is a plus)
  • Are ready to find compromises.
  • Focus on inclusion and diversity.
  • Have knowledge of community consultations.
  • Have intercultural communication experience.
  • Have governance or organization experience in non-profits or communities.
  • Have experience negotiating with different parties.

The Committee is expected to start with 15 people. If there are 20 or more candidates, a mixed election and selection process will happen. If there are 19 or fewer candidates, then the process of selection without election takes place.

Will you help move Wikimedia forward in this important role? Submit your candidacy here. Please contact strategy2030(_AT_) with questions.

This message may have been sent previously - please note that the deadline for candidate submissions was extended and candidacies are still being accepted until 14 September 2021. Xeno (WMF) 17:16, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[]

Server switch[edit]

SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 00:45, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[]

Talk to the Community Tech[edit]

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As we have recently announced, we, the team working on the Community Wishlist Survey, would like to invite you to an online meeting with us. It will take place on September 15th, 23:00 UTC on Zoom, and will last an hour. Click here to join.



The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes without attribution will be taken and published on Meta-Wiki. The presentation (first three points in the agenda) will be given in English.

We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, and Spanish. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them on the Community Wishlist Survey talk page or send to

Natalia Rodriguez (the Community Tech manager) will be hosting this meeting.

Invitation link

See you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 03:03, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[]

free wikipedia[edit]

you now have to have a account for permission to edit Farsi wikipedia. Baratiiman (talk) 15:27, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[]

  • Not sure what you want us to make of that link, though it does appear that fawiki has started enforcing registration requirements for actions to mainspace today via w:fa:Special:Abusefilter/history/235, enacted by one of their bureaucrats, @Yamaha5:. This is primarily a fawiki issue, but perhaps Yamaha5 can point to a community discussion that others that are interested can review? — xaosflux Talk 18:06, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[]
    • FWIW, another fawiki admin has disabled the blocking filter, however there is an open phab task (phab:T291018) to do this again via software. — xaosflux Talk 15:33, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[]

Grants:Project/Rapid/Amuzujoe/Landscape photography[edit]

Dear Community Members,

I am announcing a rapid grant we submitted about educating potential editors on naming of pictures on commons so pictures don't get lost, and also educating people on how to upload pictures on commons using the phone and the laptop. We would be very grateful to have your feedback and endorsements about this project. Please see the proposal here:

Kind regards, Amuzujoe (talk) 19:29, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[]

link from nonexistent pages to other language versions[edit]

for example, in there is red link "populosus", when i open it, there is new article form, but no interwiki links. the "populosus" red link has

url and

{{etyl|la|en}} {{m|la|populosus||full of people, populous}}

code. if i search for " populosus" in google i see there is french article for that. if i manually type in address bar, i see a page with search buttons, but there are no interwiki links. pressing the search buttons, i can find several articles, in english wiktionary, that link to the nonexistent "populosus". i think it would be good if there were interwiki links in the nonexistent page and in the new article form. --QDinar (talk) 19:50, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[]

I've occasionally wanted that feature when editing Wiktionary too. --Oerjan (talk) 22:23, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[]
Interwiki links depend on a record to the page being on wikidata - it is never assumed that just because two content pages have the same title that they are about the same subject. For an example, assume you were going to create this page w:en:Lotta Herzog, while it does not exist on enwiki, it does on dewiki - but it is also possible two people can have the same name. On enwiki, we do provide a link to search other projects for the title. — xaosflux Talk 00:07, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[]
@Xaosflux: Interwiki in Wiktionary main namespace is not provided by Wikidata, but by mw:Extension:Cognate.--GZWDer (talk) 15:13, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[]

Movement Charter Drafting Committee - Community Elections to take place October 11 - 24[edit]

Full announcement in other languages

This is a short message with an update from the Movement Charter process. The call for candidates for the Drafting Committee closed September 14, and we got a diverse range of candidates. The committee will consist of 15 members, and those will be (s)elected via a 3-step process:

  • Election process for project communities to elect 7 members of the committee.
  • Selection process for affiliates to select 6 members of the committee.
  • Wikimedia Foundation process to appoint 2 members of the committee.

The community elections will take place between October 11 and October 24. The other process will take place in parallel, so that all processes will be concluded by November 1.

For the full context of the Movement Charter, its role, as well the process for its creation, please have a look at Meta. You can also contact us at any time on Telegram or via email (wikimedia2030(_AT_)

Xeno (WMF) (talk) 03:11, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[]